June 29, 2026

EP011: Why selling might feel harder right now (and what to do about it)

EP011: Why selling might feel harder right now (and what to do about it)

Episode summary

A client recently asked Anna if she's having to work harder this year. Her honest answer: yes—but really, she's working differently.

Anna unpacks what's changed and walks through her Multi-Layered Sales Framework—human, leverage and scale—and shares her own numbers to show where the real money is coming from, drawing a clear line between toxic hustle and the truth that building a business still takes work.

Episode outline / timestamps

00:00 – "Am I working harder this year?" (and the more useful answer)

01:12 – What's really changed: AI noise, cautious buyers, a correcting market

05:57 – Anna's shift: from a 65% launch model to relationship-led sales

06:33 – Two challenge launches this year (~16% each)

07:49 – The Multi-Layered Sales Framework

08:03 – Layer 1: the human layer

08:45 – Layer 2: the leverage layer

09:36 – Layer 3: the scale layer

10:50 – £17k of new sales in two weeks—and where it came from

12:00 – The big mistake: skipping straight to scale

14:52 – The £250k, four-hours-a-day story

17:23 – Working harder vs working differently

20:00 – Your actions: map your revenue + client lifetime value

20:42 – Closing + how to work with Anna

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Meet Your Host:

Anna Payne is a sales and business growth expert with almost three decades of experience across sales, leadership and entrepreneurship.

She has founded and co-founded three successful businesses since 2008, selling and delivering millions of pounds of consultancy and working with clients across five continents, as well as building and leading high-performing teams.

Anna is also the author of the number one bestseller Everything You’ve Been Taught About Sales is Wrong (*Probably) and a keynote speaker on sales and entrepreneurship.

Website: https://www.annapayne.online/everything

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